tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-64830905380630992952024-03-12T21:54:45.910-07:00Confederate GrayStogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.comBlogger114125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-80272509080578359832023-07-28T13:52:00.006-07:002023-07-30T21:20:44.041-07:00White Supremacy, Hobgoblin of the Left<p><span style="font-size: medium;">You hear a lot these days about the horrors of "White Supremacy." Nobody seems to know exactly what it is but it is horrible. President Joe Biden says it is the number one threat to "our democracy." After having read about it and meditated on deeper truths, I have conceived the following definition of a White Supremacist:</span></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><i>A White Supremacist is what you are when you are not a ranting Marxist Communist. </i></span></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Now you know. It isn't about color. Black, Hispanic and Asian conservatives are also White Supremacists. Together we shall rule the world. Honest.</span></p>Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-59449766755577338582022-06-02T10:17:00.001-07:002022-06-02T10:22:00.253-07:00Charles Dickens on the Civil war - March 1862 <div><br></div><div>Charles Dickens on the Civil war - March 1862</div><div>From Charles Dickens letter to the WW Cerjet 16 March 1862:</div><div>"I take the facts of the American quarrel to stand thus. Slavery has in reality nothing on earth to do with it, in any kind of association with any generous or chivalrous sentiment on the part of the North. But the North having gradually got to itself the making of the laws and the settlement of the tariffs, and having taxed South most abominably for its own advantage, began to see, as the country grew, that unless it advocated the laying down of a geographical line beyond which slavery should not extend, the South would necessarily to recover it's old political power, and be able to help itself a little in the adjustment of the commercial affairs.</div><div><br></div><div>Every reasonable creature may know, if willing, that the North hates the Negro, and until it was convenient to make a pretense that sympathy with him was the cause of the War, it hated the Abolitionists and derided them up hill and down dale. For the rest, there's not a pins difference between the two parties. They will both rant and lie and fight until they come to a compromise; and the slave may be thrown into that compromise or thrown out, just as it happens."</div><div><br></div><div>"As to Secession being Rebellion, it is distinctly provable by State papers that Washington, considered it no such thing – that Massachusetts, now loudest against it, has itself asserted its right to secede, again and again – and that years ago, when the two Carolinas began to train their militia expressly for Secession, commissioners sent to treat with them and to represent the disastrous policy of such secession, never hinted it would be rebellion."</div><div><br></div> Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-71924836266305144382021-12-27T11:43:00.001-08:002021-12-27T11:43:26.442-08:00Southern Secession Was Not “Rebellion.”<div><font size="4">NOT A REBELLION</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">- Rev. J. William Jones, University of Virginia, July 18:</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Let me add my earnest and hearty protest against calling our war the “Rebellion.” It was not a rebellion, and we were not rebels or traitors. George Washington was a rebel because he fought against properly constituted and legal authority and if he had failed he would probably have been tried as a rebel and executed as a traitor. But Jefferson Davis was no rebel when he led the great struggle to maintain proper authority, to uphold law and constitution; and when the Federal Government held him as a prisoner they never dared to bring him to trial, because they knew, under the advice of Chief Justice Chase and the ablest lawyers at the North, that they could never convict him of treason under the Constitution and laws of the United States.</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">I remember that one day down at Beauvoir, several years before his death, the grand old chief of the Confederacy said to me alluding to this question: “Rebellion indeed! How can a sovereign State rebel? You might as well say that Germany rebelled against France, or that France, who was overwhelmed in the conflict, rebelled against Germany, as to say that the sovereign States of the Confederacy rebelled against the North or the government. O that they had dared give me the trial I so much coveted, and for which I so earnestly begged, in order that I might have opportunities to vindicate my people and their cause before the world and at the bar of history! They knew that I would have been triumphantly acquitted, and our people purged of all taint of treason, and they never dared to bring my case to trial.”</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Is it not time, then, for those people to cease talking about treason and rebellion, and to stop their insults in calling us rebels? If there were any rebels in that great contest, they were north of the Potomac and the Ohio—the men who trampled under foot the Constitution of our country and the liberties bequeath us by our fathers.</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Gen. Lee always spoke of the war as the “great struggle for Constitutional freedom,” and that is a truthful and distinctive title which I prefer. The War Between the States” was the title given by A. H. Stephens, and is a good one. “Confederate War” would do, but that implies that we made the war, which, of course, we did not, our policy being peace. The “War of Coercion,” or the “War against State Sovereignty” would express it; but the “Rebellion,” never!</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Confederate Veteran July 1894</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Hat tip: Carl Jones of FaceBook</font></div><div><br></div> Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-6056048995389451942021-12-09T09:15:00.001-08:002022-06-02T10:22:54.224-07:00How Lincoln “Saved” the Union<img id="id_fe76_aaff_b3d0_8d15" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/Bzw1t37Fnbla00IkGADeEZLLWSmy-DhETqm-FXGLK8jiStM1YGfnnThbZd8_4Dumwc8" alt="" title="" tooltip="" style="width: 392px; height: auto;"><br> Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-11054787063810317532021-12-07T12:25:00.001-08:002021-12-07T12:25:39.760-08:00The Why of the Civil War<div>The Why of the War</div><div>By : Samuel Ashwood</div><div><br></div><div>As Woke education gains more and more of a foothold, it becomes nearly impossible to hold an intelligent conversation about the American Civil War. Many, maybe most Americans—especially those attending university—have been convinced that the war was about slavery, slavery, slavery.</div><div><br></div><div>Of course, those who have looked a little more deeply into the matter realize there are some fundamental flaws with this line of argumentation. If the war was about nothing but slavery, why were there more slave states in the Union than in the Confederacy when Fort Sumter was fired on? If the war was about nothing but the preservation of slavery, then why didn’t the seceding states rejoin the Union in early 1861 and ratify the original Lincoln-endorsed 13th amendment (Corwin amendment) which would have guaranteed the protection of slavery in perpetuity? If the war was over nothing but slavery, why did both the United States congress, and Abraham Lincoln himself, avow in public declarations that the war was not about slavery, but the preservation of the union?</div><div><br></div><div>But there is another question that far too seldom is asked, which should be at the root of every conversation of this great American calamity. Try to talk about the origins of the war today, and invariably somebody will begin citing the causes of secession put forth by the seven cotton states, all of which named the protection of slavery as a decisive factor for their departure from the union. For some reason, Americans have allowed themselves to be convinced that the act of secession is the same as a declaration of war.</div><div><br></div><div>Of course, it is not. There were, in fact, nearly four months between the first act of secession by South Carolina, and the firing on Fort Sumter, which precipitated the war. Even at that, the bloodless reduction of Sumter by Confederate forces under P.G.T. Beuaregard by no means need have started a war. After all, other nations engage in border skirmishes where people are killed frequently, without full-fledged war breaking out—North and South Korea, China and India, to name a couple.</div><div><br></div><div>“But American soldiers and the American flag were fired on!” Yes, and zero casualties were incurred. On January 3, 2020, President Donald Trump had Iranian leader Qassem Soleimani killed by drone strike. In retaliation, Iran fired missiles at a US base, and injured multiple American soldiers—in other words, far more damage was done than was done to US forces than at Fort Sumter. And yet, there was no invasion of Iran in response.</div><div><br></div><div>While it is important to know why the Southern states seceded, when we consider the war, the far more important question is this: Why did Lincoln choose coercion instead of negotiation and reconciliation? It is the question that no modern historians seem interested in asking or answering. Why? Doubtless, because the answer, if provided honestly, would reveal some truths that Americans weaned on the milk of righteous cause mythology would not want to hear.</div><div><br></div><div>Ask yourself the question: in what way would the North have been damaged if the seven cotton states had been allowed to depart in peace? We know, by the admission of Lincoln and the US Congress, that they waged war for union, not to end slavery, so we can rule out humanitarian motives. Why, then, did Lincoln call for 75,000 troops to invade and subjugate the South?</div><div><br></div><div>The answer is money. If the Southern states, whose cotton was a major staple of the world economy at that time, created a free trade zone, European trade would have fled Northern ports and their high tariffs for the South. The results for the economy of the United States would have been disastrous, without a drastic change in economic policy, that would have undermined everything the Republican Party stood for. Whether Lincoln ever cried out, when asked why he seemed intent on choosing war, “What about my tariff?” or not, it is clear that this was a primary factor in the Northern decision to go to war in 1861.</div><div><br></div><div>Wars are not fought over righteous moral indignation by one side against another, whether slavery or firing on the flag. These things may serve to galvanize the population behind a war, but governments go to war for money or power. Lincoln’s choice was based on the economic and political disaster facing the North if a free trade zone was created in the South to complete with the high tariff Northern ports. Instead of negotiating peacefully to restore the states to the union, or adjusting their economic policies to compete with the South, Lincoln chose a war that would take almost a million lives and do social and political damage we are still living with today.</div> Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-3189511996547934932021-12-07T11:41:00.001-08:002021-12-09T07:27:32.775-08:00Why the North Dared Not Try Jefferson Davis for Treason<div>The Boston Daily Adviser, July 25, 1865, stated exactly what was on the line:</div><div><br></div><div>“If Jefferson Davis is innocent, then it is the government of the United States which is guilty; if secession has not been rebellion, then the North in stifling it as such, has committed a crime.”</div><div><br></div><div>That the question was even asked tells us that the legality of secession was at minimum an open question. How then could Jeff Davis be convicted of treason? The North wanted legal vindication of its trial by battle in a trial by court, but recognized the stakes were high and vindication far from certain. The press in New York City was insisting that no treason had taken place and Jeff Davis was merely obeying an order of his rightful sovereign - the State of Mississippi. The New York World asserted, “To submit the secession question to a court is to imply that it is still open to doubt!” The paper then concluded that even if the court did “decide that secession is a constitutional right, Unionists would not yield their convictions on this subject.” Therefore the paper concluded “the trial of Mr. Davis is little better than a judicial farce.” (New York World, May 16, 1866.) Harpers Weekly noted the possibility of acquittal which if happened would mean the US Government had “waged war against those whom the courts would have justified in their actions.” (Harpers Weekly, May 26, 1866.)</div><div><br></div><div>The Chief Justice of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court G. W. Woodward wrote:</div><div><br></div><div>“But is secession treason? That’s a grand question. If it is not, war in support of it cannot be... It will have to be defined and made plain, unless indeed we continue to set aside all law and administer only drumbeat justice.” (G. W. Woodward to Jeremiah Black May 28, 1865)</div><div><br></div><div>Lincoln knew his claims about secession’s illegality were not certain, and therefore hoped Jeff Davis would escape. He told Gen. Sherman, “I’m bound to oppose the escape of Jeff Davis, but if you could manage to have him slip out unbeknownst-like, I guess it wouldn’t hurt me much!” (Sherman interview, New York Times, July 4, 1865). </div><div><br></div><div>Jeff Davis believed a trial would vindicate the Confederate cause. For this reason he steadfastly refused to apply for a pardon. His private secretary wrote to his mother, “he has all along earnestly desired a trial, confident the world and posterity would see the thing in its right light...” (Burton Harrison to his mother, June 13, 1866.)</div><div><br></div><div>In light of the uncertainty regarding the illegality of secession, US Attorney General James Speed received pressure from all angles, including Sec of State Seward and Sec of War Stanton to try Davis in a way that would ensure his conviction at all costs. Sen James Doolittle proposed a bill that would manipulate the qualifications of jurors to ensure they could be counted on to convict him. Representative William Lawrence introduced a bill that was a potential violation of the Constitution. When warned he declared himself “willing to go to the very verge of the Constitution...” (Congressional Globe, 39th Congress, 2nd sess, 12/11/1866). </div><div><br></div><div>When an indictment was returned against Davis based on “thin” testimony, the New York Daily News protested that the prosecution had rigged the proceedings by selecting a grand jury predisposed against him. (The New York Daily News, May 12, 1866.) In charging the grand jury the Judge in the case, John C. Underwood, made it clear he thought Davis guilty prompting one courtroom observer to remark, “if he and his packed jury of ferrets and Yankees were to be permitted to have anything to do with Mr. Davis he would have but a slim chance for justice.” (New York Times, May 12, 1866; David Powell to Elizabeth Dabney Saunders, June 8, 1866.) When asked if he could pack a jury to convict Davis, Judge Underwood responded, “I could pack a jury to convict him: I know very earnest, ardent Union men in Virginia.” (Report of the Joint Committee on Reconstruction, 1866, testimony of John C. Underwood.)</div><div><br></div><div>Obviously the North was plagued by a culture of lawlessness. Is it any wonder the South sought to secede, and sought to do so not because of slavery, tariffs, internal spending, bounties, centralization, or any other numerous complaints they levied against the North? These were all symptoms of a more fundamental reason for secession - Northern infidelity to the legal compact that held the States in Union. The South simply sought independence from a section of States that had a long history of a culture of lawlessness. </div> Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-52844151139625144042021-12-06T08:04:00.001-08:002021-12-06T08:05:23.138-08:00The North’s Involvement in Slavery<div>Complicity: How the North Promoted, Prolonged, and Profited From Slavery"</div><div><br></div><div>'Complicity' uncovers North's ties to slavery</div><div><br></div><div>Slavery in the South has been documented in volumes ranging from exhaustive histories to bestselling novels. But the North’s profit from–indeed, dependence on–slavery has mostly been a shameful and well-kept secret . . . until now.</div><div><br></div><div>In this startling and superbly researched new book, three veteran New England journalists de-mythologize the region of America known for tolerance and liberation, revealing a place where thousands of people were held in bondage and slavery was both an economic dynamo and a necessary way of life.</div><div><br></div><div>Complicity reveals the cruel truth about the Triangle Trade of molasses, rum, and slaves that lucratively linked the North to the West Indies and Africa; discloses the reality of Northern empires built on profits from rum, cotton, and ivory–and run, in some cases, by abolitionists; and exposes the thousand-acre plantations that existed in towns such as Salem, Connecticut.</div><div><br></div><div>Here, too, are eye-opening accounts of the individuals who profited directly from slavery far from the Mason-Dixon line–including Nathaniel Gordon of Maine, the only slave trader sentenced to die in the United States, who even as an inmate of New York’s infamous Tombs prison was supported by a shockingly large percentage of the city; Patty Cannon, whose brutal gang kidnapped free blacks from Northern states and sold them into slavery; and the Philadelphia doctor Samuel Morton, eminent in the nineteenth-century field of “race science,” which purported to prove the inferiority of African-born black people.</div><div><br></div><div>A startling new history exposes the plantations, slave ships, and rebellions in the North, upending the notion that slavery was a peculiarly Southern institution.</div><div><br></div><div>In 1641, Massachusetts became the first colony to recognize slavery by statute. Four years later, a Boston ship made one of the earliest known slave voyages from New England to Africa.</div><div><br></div><div>By the late 1700s, tens of thousands of blacks were living as slaves in the North. "Complicity" shows just how integral slavery was to the region's economy.</div><div><br></div><div>The scope of the North's involvement with slavery is staggering to anyone raised with the notion that slavery was limited to the South.</div><div><br></div><div>In the mid-1800s, Charles Sumner, a Bay State abolitionist, railed against the unholy alliance "between the cotton-planters and flesh-mongers of Louisiana and Mississippi and the cotton spinners and traffickers of New England -- between the lords of the lash and the lords of the loom." In 1861, the mayor of New York suggested the city -- long a hub of illegal slave trade -- secede from the Union in large part so cotton trade with the South could continue.</div><div><br></div><div>"Complicity" grew out of The Hartford Courant's investigation of slavery throughout Connecticut. The reporters discovered that more than 5,000 Africans were enslaved in Connecticut during the year before the American Revolution. Now three Courant veterans have produced a rich history of slavery in the North that adds new dimensions to what you might have learned in school.</div><div><br></div><div>The successful voyage of a slave ship was 10 times as profitable as an ordinary trading voyage from New England to the West Indies. Rhode Island entered the slave trade in a big way, shipping nearly 50,000 slaves in less than 20 years. By the mid-18th century, plantations in the Narragansett area matched the plantations of Virginia's Tidewater region in acreage and numbers of slaves.</div><div><br></div><div>For more than a century, Ivoryton and Deep River, Conn., were an international center for milling elephant tusks into piano keys. As many as 2 million enslaved Africans carried tusks hundreds of miles to the coast so the tusks could be shipped to America. Two industry leaders were abolitionists who ignored the contradiction between their business and their politics.</div><div><br></div><div>"Complicity" joins a number of books published over the past year that have taken a closer look at slavery. "Runaway America: Benjamin Franklin, Slavery, and the American Revolution" by David Waldstreicher analyzes Franklin's history as an indentured servant and, later in life, a slaveholder. "New York Burning: Liberty, Slavery, and Conspiracy in Eighteenth-Century Manhattan" by Jill Lepore examines the fires of New York City in 1741 to which "Complicity" devotes a chapter. The fires were thought to be a slave rebellion and 30 slaves were executed.</div><div><br></div><div>Unlike the tighter focus of those two books, "Complicity" ranges across a wide swath of territory and time. This is the book's weakness as well as its strength. Each chapter moves to a new place and another facet of the North's entanglement with slavery. A reader can be forgiven for feeling that this is history for the fast-paced MTV generation.</div><div><br></div><div>Yet the sheer volume of numbers and narratives from Northern states brings home the extent to which slavery was a part of everyday life in a region largely defined by its antipathy toward the institution. Much of what's in "Complicity" was gleaned from old newspapers and more than 100 period drawings, photos, and documents bring a sense of immediacy to the storytelling. This is history at its best, a story not only of the government officials who made front-page news, but a story of the fugitive slaves for whom a bounty was offered in the classified ads.</div><div><br></div><div>Most Americans learn that slavery was a southern institution, but in fact, many enslaved Africans were held and worked in the North.</div><div><br></div><div>Many northern industries and businesses–shipbuilding, ports, banks, insurance companies, textile mills–were dependent on slave labor in both the North and South. Northern consumers were dependent on the products of this slave labor for food, clothing, and amenities like ivory piano keys.</div><div><br></div><div>In this video below, you will learn about the significant complicity of the northern states in the slave trade, slave labor, and slave-made products in the history of the United States.</div><div><br></div><div>https://youtu.be/hAQnlpLaj30</div> Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-69883978218753183062021-11-17T21:05:00.001-08:002021-11-17T21:05:16.590-08:00Why Lincoln Kept Slavery Out of the Territories<div>By Rob O’Barr, From FaceBook Post</div><div><br></div><div>In the popular “Righteous Cause” narrative, Lincoln’s stand against slavery in the territories is presented as a great moral line in the sand beyond which slavery was not to go. This is a myth. </div><div><br></div><div>While it is true Lincoln expressed a lot of abstract moralizing about slavery as a violation of natural law, most all Americans North and South believed slavery in the abstract a violation of natural law. As Lee stated in a letter to his wife in 1856, “There are few I believe in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery is a moral and political evil.” </div><div><br></div><div>But as Aristotle pointed out, morality applies not just to what you believe but what you do and why you do it. Was Lincoln’s motive for keeping slavery out of the territories a moral humanitarian concern for the well being of the slave? Hear Lincoln’s reason for no slavery in the territories:</div><div><br></div><div>“There is a natural disgust in the minds of nearly all white people to the idea of indiscriminate amalgamation (mixing) of the white and black races. A Separation of the races is the only perfect preventative of amalgamation, but as an immediate separation is impossible, the next best thing is to keep them apart where they are not already together. If white and black people never get together in Kansas, they will never mix blood in Kansas…”</div><div><br></div><div>In an 1860 campaign speech Lincoln’s future Secretary of State, William Seward, made it clear what motivated Northern “anti-slavery.” And it was far from a moral humanitarian concern:</div><div><br></div><div>“How natural has it been to assume that the motive of those who have protested against the extension of slavery, was an unnatural sympathy with the negro instead of what it always has really been, concern for the welfare of the white man.”</div><div><br></div><div>The greatest error of modern historians is to read into 19th century Northern “anti-slavery” a moral meaning that for the most part simply did not exist. When it did not proceed from a rabid racism its motivation was political. </div><div><br></div><div>On the other the other hand, the same error of presentism is made in regard to the meaning of Southern “pro-slavery.” More often then not it proceeded from a concern for the wellbeing of the black folk Southern whites had grown up with. Given the anti-black attitudes of the North which sought to separate the races and deport all blacks from the country, is it any wonder that the Mississippi Declaration of Secession laments:</div><div><br></div><div>“It (the North) seeks not to elevate or to support the slave, but to destroy his present condition without providing a better.”</div><div><br></div><div>General Lee echoed the same concern:</div><div><br></div><div> “The best men in the South have long desired to do away with the institution of slavery, and were quite willing to see it abolished. But, unless some humane course, based on wisdom and Christian principles, was adopted, you do them great injustice in setting them free.”</div><div><br></div><div>Racism was a fact of life in both the North and South, but how that attitude played out was very different in both sections. Northerners did not live in close proximity to large numbers of black people, and that segregated society informed their “anti-slavery” attitudes. They did not want to live with blacks. While there was subordination in the South, there was not segregation, and living in close proximity to large numbers of black folk led to close bonds across racial lines that informed Southern “pro-slavery” attitudes. Reading “anti-slavery” and “pro-slavery” with a 21st century understanding of these terms causes us to miss the vastly different meaning of these terms in their 19th century context, and we badly misunderstand the motives informing these causes.</div> Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-84732435282369342332020-06-29T19:32:00.000-07:002020-06-29T19:32:02.530-07:00PRO-SOUTH BOOKSThe following is a list of pro-South books that I recommend for understanding the Confederacy and its righteous cause for political independence. Click on the links to go to the Amazon page where you can order the books.<br />
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1. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/South-Right-James-Ronald-Kennedy-ebook/dp/B004SCBKXM/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=The+South+Was+Right&qid=1593482824&sr=8-2">The South Was Right</a>, by James Ronald Kennedy and Walter Donald Kennedy<br />
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3. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/When-Course-Human-Events-Secession/dp/0847697231/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3U7NH1XUWL2VR&dchild=1&keywords=when+in+the+course+of+human+events&qid=1593482929&sprefix=When+In+the+cours%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-2"> Slavery Was Not the Cause of the War Between the States: the Irrefutable Argument</a>, by Gene Kizer, Jr.<br />
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<a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7HzBKV1jTQY/Xvqjs3BDXeI/AAAAAAAAPHA/7ypW2btRrucKUGnRCJkkME8_3kzJu5gEgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Real%2BLincoln.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="216" data-original-width="145" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7HzBKV1jTQY/Xvqjs3BDXeI/AAAAAAAAPHA/7ypW2btRrucKUGnRCJkkME8_3kzJu5gEgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Real%2BLincoln.PNG" /></a>4. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Abraham-Lincoln-Southern-Lochlainn-Seabrook/dp/0982189974/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=Abraham+Lincoln+the+Southern+View&qid=1593483868&sr=8-8">Abraham Lincoln, the Southern View</a>, by Lochlainn SeabrookStogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-34408219323155586912019-09-03T18:39:00.001-07:002019-09-04T10:26:35.092-07:00My Best Lincoln Meme
A few years back an article appeared on FaceBook praising Abraham Lincoln. Several of my friends and family made favorable comments about Lincoln, which angered me. So in response, I created a meme with Photoshop expressing the Southern view of the great tyrant. I live in California and feared a negative backlash by potential employers, so I did not sign the meme. After first posting it on FaceBook, I posted it on my blog on June 30, 2015 <font face="Helvetica">at this link: </font><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica;">http://saberpoint.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-myth-of-abraham-lincoln-photoshop.html.</span><div><br></div><div>After a year or two the meme began showing up on social media sites by Southern patriots. I am pleased that my meme is useful to other Confederates. Feel free to use it.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><img class="CSS_LIGHTBOX_SCALED_IMAGE_IMG" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KXsrrvf5Jx4/VZN9jTnV7QI/AAAAAAAANDk/G8Eu_Dzcbhg/s1600/Myth%2Bof%2BLincoln.png" style="cursor: pointer; outline: rgb(0, 0, 0) solid 1px; position: relative; text-align: center; width: 600px; height: auto;" id="id_331d_4a7b_30f0_17fe"></span></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><br></p></div><div><br></div><div><br><div> <div><br><div><br></div></div></div></div>Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-35451311469215358492019-09-01T14:08:00.001-07:002023-07-28T13:17:45.109-07:00Basic Facts About the War for Southern IndependenceI often encounter neo-Yankees on Twitter or this site or elsewhere who want to argue about the causes of the so-called Civil War, the legality of secession, who was responsible for slavery, who started the war, ad infinitum. Instead of having to argue the same defenses over and over again, I have decided to summarize the Southern arguments here, where I can point to a link and invite the Southern-adverse to read it.<br />
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Here is a list of subjects that I will cover, subject to change:<br />
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1. The meaning of the Confederate Battle Flag.<br />
2. Fort Sumter: How Lincoln deliberately started the Civil War.<br />
3. Lincoln's reasons for starting the war.<br />
4. The war was not about ending slavery.<br />
5. The North was equally responsible for slavery in America.<br />
6. The North never put forth any plan for peacefully ending slavery.<br />
6. The North cared nothing for the slaves, before or after emancipation.<br />
7. Secession was and is legal and Constitutional.<br />
8. The North was wrong and the South was right.<br />
9. Northern atrocities against Southern civilians.<br />
10. POWs and Andersonville Prison; how a Confederate officer was framed and murdered by a Northern kangaroo court.<br />
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More on this later.<br />Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-15020832239869061172018-05-12T21:02:00.000-07:002018-05-13T10:49:07.117-07:00Jefferson Davis's Response to the Emancipation Proclamation, Full TextPresident Abraham Lincoln delivered his Emancipation Proclamation on September 22, 1862, to become effective on January 1, 1863. Northern newspapers carried the news in January 1863, and Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederacy, responded to the proclamation on January 14, 1863.<br />
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Unfortunately, someone unknown wrote and disseminated a forgery that was supposed to be Davis's address. It was vile and put Jefferson Davis in a bad light, much to the glee of followers of the Northern Myth. The forgery is reprinted in this blog <a href="http://confederategray.blogspot.com/2012/07/a-few-years-ago-i-read-biography-of.html">at this link</a>. Some readers have argued that this document is not a forgery, as Davis's speech had been reprinted in Richmond newspapers. However, they are assuming that the forgery is the speech that was reprinted.<br />
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To end this confusion, I searched for the actual text of Jefferson Davis's actual speech and response to Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation, and the actual speech is nothing like the forgery. I found the actual speech online, a<span style="background-color: white; color: #282625; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">s recorded in the <i>Journal of
the Congress of the Confederate States of America, January 14, 1863. </i>I had to refer to scanned copies of the original minutes, but I have transcribed the speech into Word, and now I copy and paste it here.</span><br />
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North have been received, containing a proclamation dated on the first day of
the present a month, signed by the President of the United States, in which he
orders and declares all slaves within ten of the States of the Confederacy to
be free, except such as are found within certain districts now occupied in part
by the forces of the enemy.<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span style="background: white; color: #282625; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 107%;">We may leave it to the
instincts of that common humanity which a beneficent Creator has implanted in
the breasts of our fellow-men of all countries to pass judgment on a measure by
which several millions of human beings of an inferior race, peaceful and
contented laborers in their spheres, are doomed to extermination, while at the
same time they are encouraged to a general assassination of their masters by
the insidious recommendation “to refrain from violence unless in necessary
self-defense.” Our own detestation of
those who have attempted the most execrable measure recorded in the history of
guilty man is tempered by profound contempt for the impotent rage which it
discloses. So far as regards the action
of this Government on such criminals as may attempt its execution, I confine
myself to informing you that I shall, unless in your wisdom you deem some other
course more expedient, deliver to the several State authorities all
commissioned officers of the United States that may hereafter be captured by
our forces in any of the States embraced in the proclamation, that they may be
dealt with in accordance with the laws of those States providing for the
punishment of criminals engaged in exciting servile insurrection. The enlisted soldiers I shall continue to
treat as unwilling instruments in the commission of these crimes, and shall
direct their discharge and return to their homes on the proper and usual
parole.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; color: #282625; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 107%;">In its political aspect this
measure possesses great significance, and to it in this light I invite your
attention. It affords our people the
complete and crowning proof of the true nature of the designs of the party
which elevated to power the present occupant of the Presidential chair at
Washington, and by the perfidious use of the most solemn and repeated pledges
on every possible occasion. I extract,
in this connection, as a single example, the following declaration made by President
Lincoln, under the solemnity of his oath as Chief Magistrate of the United
States, on the 4<sup>th</sup> of March, 1861: “Apprehension seems to exist
among the people of the Southern States that by the accession of a Republican
Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be
endangered. There has never been any
reasonable cause for such apprehensions.
Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed
and been open to their inspection. It is
found in nearly all the speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches
when I declare that I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere
with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so;
and I have no inclination to do so.
Those who nominated and elected me did so with the full knowledge that I
made this and many similar declarations, and have never recanted them. And, more than this, they placed in the
platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and
emphatic resolution which I now read: “<i>’Resolved</i>,
That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the
right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions
according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of
powers on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend;
and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or
Territory, no matter under what pretext, as among the gravest crimes.’”<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; color: #282625; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 107%;">Nor was this declaration of the
want of power of disposition to interfere with our social system confined to a
state of peace. Both before and after
the actual commencement of hostilities the President of the United States
repeated in formal official communication to the cabinets of Great Britain and
France that he was utterly without constitutional power to do the act which he
has just committed, and that in no possible event, whether the secession of
these States resulted in the establishment of a separate Confederacy or in
restoration of the Union, was there any authority by virtue of which he could
either restore a disaffected State to the Union by force of arms or make any
change in any of its institutions. I
refer especially for verification of this assertion to the dispatches addressed
to the Secretary of State of the United States under direction of the President
to the ministers of the United States at London and Paris, under date of 10<sup>th</sup>
and 22d April, 1861.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; color: #282625; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 107%;">The people of the Confederacy,
then, can not fail to receive this proclamation as the fullest vindication of
their own sagacity in foreseeing the uses to which the dominant party in the
United States intended from the beginning to apply their power, nor can they
cease to remember, with devout thankfulness, that it is to their own vigilance
in resisting the first stealthy progress of approaching despotism that they owe
their escape from the consequences now apparent to the most skeptical. This proclamation will have another salutary
effect in calming the fears of those who have constantly evinced the
apprehension that this war might end by some reconstruction of the old Union or
some renewal of close political relations with the United States. These fears have never been shared by me, nor
have I ever been able to perceive on what basis they could rest. But the proclamation affords the fullest
guarantee of the impossibility of such a result; it has established a state of
things which can lead to but one of three possible consequences—the
extermination of the slaves, the exile of the whole white population from the
Confederacy, or absolute and total separation of these States from the United
States.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; color: #282625; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 107%;">This
proclamation is also an authentic statement by the Government of the United
States of its inability to subjugate the South by force of arms, and as such
must be accepted by neutral nations, which can no longer find any justification
in withholding our just claims to formal recognition. It is also in effect an intimation to the
people of the North that they must prepare to submit to a separation, now
become inevitable, for that people are too acute not to understand that a
restoration of the Union has been rendered forever impossible by the adoption
of a measure which, from its very nature, neither admits of retraction nor can
coexist with union.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Davis, N.B. Harrison<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<br />Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-5556394253181188932017-07-06T10:22:00.001-07:002018-05-12T20:46:56.963-07:00What Modern Confederates BelieveI don't speak for every person who identifies with the Southern Confederacy, or who reveres it as his or her heritage. However, I am active enough in various pro-South organizations to have a fairly good sense of what the mass of us believe. Here it is:<br />
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1. <u>We acknowledge that slavery was a great evil.</u> However, in 1860 the Southern generation at that time had inherited an entrenched system that was very difficult to get rid of. Immediate, uncompensated emancipation would have resulted in economic ruin for the South (and probably the North as well), and starvation for the former slaves. <br />
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The North never, at any time, proposed a practical plan for peacefully ending slavery. Further, slavery was an American evil, not merely a Southern one. The North was equally responsible for its presence in America, as Lincoln admitted candidly in his first speech of the Lincoln-Douglas debates.<br />
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2. <u>We do not believe that the North invaded the South to free the slaves, or had any altruistic motivations in that regard.</u> We believe they invaded the South to preserve the Northern economy, that would have been severely damaged had the South been permitted to leave the Union.<br />
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3. <u>We believe the South had a Constitutional and moral right to secede from the American Union and form a new union of Southern states, i.e., the Confederate States of America.</u> Secession was not, and is not, treason; it is the natural right of any people to govern themselves.<br />
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4. <u>We do not honor or display the Confederate flags in order to offend anyone.</u> We don't want to offend anyone, we aren't trying to offend anyone. However, if you are offended by flags and monuments, we don't really care that much. We see your feelings of offense to be borne of ignorance of history and Southern culture, and that's your problem, not ours. We see attempts to repress Southern flags, songs and statues as a grave insult to our ancestors. Such repression assigns dishonor to them, and strongly (and wrongly) implies that they were evil. <br />
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5. <u>Not everyone who flies the Confederate flag or plays Dixie is a "racist" or a member of the Ku Klux Klan.</u> We resent it when anti-Southern bigots conflate Southern pride with racial prejudice. We resent it when outsiders assign to us positions, feelings and beliefs that we do not possess.<br />
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6. <u>We resent the violent invasion of the South in 1861 and the numerous crimes against Southern civilians.</u> The injustice of Lincoln's War causes feelings of resentment and bitterness to this day. <br />
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7. <u>We insist on the Confederacy being given an honorable place in American history, and that its flags, monuments and other icons be preserved.</u> To the extent these things are dishonored and disrespected, the greater we feel removed, ostracized and marginalized from the American family. This does not cement our loyalty to the United States, but instead revives a yearning for a new secession. It underscores, in our minds, how right our ancestors were to seek separation and self-government.<br />
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8. <u>You don't have to agree with every point in this list, but hopefully, you will better understand our position.</u> We just want to be left alone, to LIVE AND LET LIVE. Give us the benefit of the doubt and we may return the favor.Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-28279990771036765792017-05-17T18:41:00.000-07:002017-05-17T18:41:19.625-07:00The United States of America: an Illegitimate Nation?<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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One of the core principles of our founding was the "Consent of the Governed." Lincoln's War of 1861 - 1862 ended that principle. We are today a nation composed of conquered territories, most especially the Southern states and the State of Hawaii.<br />
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Lincoln, by brute force, ended the voluntary Union of free and independent states, and replaced it with an involuntary union of coerced states. <br />
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So is the USA a legitimate nation today? I think not. This is not to say that it could not be restored to what the Founders intended. The Kennedy brothers have a new book out called "Rules for Rebels," in which they advocate non-violent but non-traditional ways to fight politically for that restoration. I am reading it now.<br />
<br />Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-7373530572619444672016-08-15T22:19:00.000-07:002016-08-16T21:15:12.248-07:00Lincoln on Southern SlaveryUse this meme as you see fit, no restrictions.
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<br />Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-34048235137621020132016-07-04T10:18:00.000-07:002016-07-04T10:18:11.345-07:00Flying Your Flag on July 4th<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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I have a flag holder attached to the front of my house. However, it has been a long time since it has held any flag. I have resolved to purchase various Confederate flags -- the First National, the Second and Third Nationals, the battleflag, the Bonnie Blue Flag, and fly one of them on national holidays.<br />
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I will start off with the First National flag. However, I have to purchase one first. Searavenpress.com sells Confederate flags for $15 each with free shipping. I will order all of the flags today.Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-39987293299693396572016-01-26T21:52:00.001-08:002016-01-26T21:52:32.221-08:00The Southern Poverty Law Center Exposed (Video) (#SPLC)The despicable Southern Poverty Law Center is now targeting Confederate monuments, flags and symbols. They are a far-left, money-making scheme that seeks to marginalize all Conservative groups and personalities. They have no credibility.<br />
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<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/6wmpCtnr61s" width="560"></iframe>Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-81121585803461338182016-01-14T13:58:00.000-08:002016-01-17T17:34:49.265-08:00Defending the Confederacy Today: Lochlainn Seabrook<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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I haven't posted here for seven months. I didn't stop writing, I just transferred much of my heritage defense to my other, better-read blog, <a href="http://saberpoint.blogspot.com/">Saberpoint</a>. Now I am back to this one for dealing with Confederate heritage and history.<br />
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It is not easy to defend the Confederacy nowadays, as the anti-South hatred has been stoked to a degree greater than anytime since reconstruction. It's as if a form of madness has spread across the nation like a plague. The mere display of a Confederate flag results in sharp cries of outrage and anguish, with much posing and posturing by those who would defend us from it.<br />
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Most Americans don't remotely know or understand what happened in America between 1860 and 1877, the time period that includes Lincoln's war and the reconstruction that came afterwards. However, the Northern version of the history of that time period is largely a lie, a self-serving, massive distortion of what actually happened and why.<br />
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I have discovered a Southern writer who explains what happened and why, one Lochlainn Seabrook of Sea Raven Press. I just finished his book <i>Abraham Lincoln: the Southern View</i>. Next on my reading list is <i>Everything You Were Taught About American Slavery is Wrong, Ask a Southerner. </i>Both of these books are weighty tomes, 654 pages for the former, 1020 pages for the latter. <br />
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The book on Lincoln inflamed my feelings against the North, Lincoln and Yankeedom. If I suddenly attained supernatural powers, I would restore the Confederate States of America immediately, then resurrect and hang Lincoln, Sherman, Grant and Sheridan for crimes against humanity. Since I can't do that, I can continue to learn, and to propagate the truth, in the hopes that future generations may go looking for it and someday find it. <br />
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You should do the same. Check out Sea Raven Press at their website, <a href="http://www.searavenpress.com/">here</a>.Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-82963583264929587472015-06-22T12:26:00.000-07:002016-01-14T13:38:44.462-08:00Support the Confederate Flag: DON'T BACK DOWN <h3>
Note to those who support the Confederate flag: DON'T BACK DOWN.</h3>
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Don't be tepid or tentative in your support of the flag. Our opposition to Northern cultural bigotry and historical (and hysterical) ignorance must be firm and unflinching. We are right, and they are wrong. View the issue with the moral clarity it deserves.</div>
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Anti-Southern bigotry is possibly one of my biggest triggers. I wrote about that some time ago, in a <a href="http://saberpoint.blogspot.com/search?q=+Why+the+Civil+War">previous post from 2010</a>. In that post I noted that the Civil War was then, and this is now. I said that I wanted to work with Northerner conservatives in our modern political struggles, and not refight a war of 150 years ago. However, I noted that the Civil War (better described as The War for Southern Independence) tapped deep emotions in me, and had the power to make me hate. I stated that I don't like to hate and seek to avoid that emotion whenever possible, because happiness and hate cannot coexist. This week, however, I feel the negative emotion returning. </div>
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Why? Because Yankees, liberals and Southerners ignorant of their own history keep re-invading the South. They buy into the Northern Myth. Intellectually lazy, they go along with the popular mythology that casts the Confederates into the role of villain. They dishonor our Confederate ancestors and grossly misrepresent their cause. Now they want to finish the wishes of General Sherman to exterminate all Southerners completely, by insisting that the Confederate flag be relegated to museums, viewed only as a dishonorable artifact. <br />
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<b>"We must show manners to those who find the flag objectionable," they write. Why is it that we must show manners but they do not? Why do their feelings count but not ours? </b><br />
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Arm yourselves with knowledge of Southern history. I suggest you can do that by reading a previously posted article by Professor Donald Livingston of Emory University, "<a href="http://saberpoint.blogspot.com/2010/12/why-civil-war-was-not-about-slavery.html">Why the Civil War Was Not About Slavery</a>." <br />
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Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-24601205428307617922015-06-21T22:52:00.000-07:002015-06-22T12:29:07.414-07:00The Confederate Flag Will Not Come Down: Deal With ItAs a Confederate descendant who is well read on the history of the War for Southern Independence, I revere the Confederate flag. It is the flag of my country and my ancestors. In light of the Charleston murders, we are now seeing a lot of liberals and mainstream Republicans calling for the removal of the flag from public display. <br />
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Mitt Romeny tweeted that the flag should come down. He tweets<br />
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<b>Take down the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ConfederateFlag?src=hash">#ConfederateFlag</a> at the SC Capitol. To many, it is a symbol of racial hatred. Remove it now to honor <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Charleston?src=hash">#Charleston</a> victims.</b><br />
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I answered him with this:<br />
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<b style="background-color: white; color: #292f33; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; white-space: pre-wrap;"><a class="twitter-atreply pretty-link js-nav" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/MittRomney" style="background: transparent; color: #fd0000; text-decoration: none;"><span style="color: #fd6666;">@</span>MittRomney</a> I regret voting for you Mitt. The flag stays. Take down the flag of Utah, it's a symbol of a false prophet and polygamy.</b><br />
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And of course, there's "Old Gorey" that many associate with invasion of the South, war on women and children, the genocide of the American Indian, the theft of Hawaii from its Queen and its people, and the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II. Oh yes, and it flew over Northern slave ships who brought the slaves to America in the first place.</div>
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The point is, a flag means different things to different people. We Confederate descendants do not accept Mitt Romney's definition or our flag, nor that of the Daily Kos, Karl Rove, Jeb Bush or any other cultural bigot who wishes to bully us into accepting their skewed view of history.<br />
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<b style="background-color: white; color: #292f33; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; white-space: pre-wrap;">Here are the motivations of the flag haters:</b><br />
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1. <u>Moral vanity</u>. Nothing pleases a liberal more than asserting his alleged moral superiority over someone else. What is an easier way than by attacking the South? <br />
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2. <u>To legitimize the Northern Myth</u>, the huge lie that the North invaded the South to free the slaves because they were just so morally righteous and broad minded and enlightened. The truth is that the North hated blacks, wanted them kept out of the new territories, made laws prohibiting their presence, and planned to deport them all back to Africa or elsewhere. They went to war to force the Southern states back into the Union for economic reasons; slavery had nothing or very little to do with it. An independent South would have free trade, open ports, thus ending the Northern tariff on imported goods. A massive relocation of jobs and revenues would quickly flow from the North to the South. This would have created an economic boom in the South, but would have impoverished the North, who depended on the South continuing to pay 80% of the taxes collected by the federal government, and whose dock workers, shipping companies, railroads, textile mills and warehouses would soon find themselves out of work. Yes, this is all well documented in the newspapers of the time. When asked why he would not simply let the South go, Lincoln exclaimed "Let the South go? Who will pay my tariff?"<br />
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3. <u>To legitimize the consolidation of the once sovereign states</u> into subordinate entities inferior to and controlled by the federal government. Today this is effectively being accomplished through federal courts, who overturn state laws and legislate from the bench.<br />
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4. <u>To legitimize the federal government's "right" to invade the individual states</u> and make war on their citizens, using force to impose its will. We are continually moving in that direction today. A nationalized police force is in the works. Once accomplished, all American states will be effectively occupied by the federal government.<br />
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<b>Here's why we will never agree:</b><br />
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Taking down the flag would mean acquiescing to bullies who wish to force their viewpoint on us, a viewpoint that is erroneous, insulting, self-serving and false. It would mean replacing our superior knowledge of history with the superficial myths the flag-haters learned from popular media, Hollywood and Northern-biased textbooks. We will not allow knowledge to be replaced with ignorance, or truth with falsehood.<br />
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History, or what is alleged to be history, is a major political weapon. The fight over history will largely influence how current and future generations see the Republic: as a collection of sovereign states with the right to self-govern and even secede, or as consolidation of those states into an increasingly oppressive federal tyranny from which there is no refuge, remedy or escape.<br />
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Leave our flag alone.</div>
Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-62909822839554941322015-06-20T10:55:00.000-07:002015-06-20T10:59:55.270-07:00Sick Freak Murders Nine in Black Charleston Church; Irrational Outpouring of Outrage Ensues Another freakazoid has murdered people with a gun. This time the perpetrator is one <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/18/everything-known-about-charleston-church-shooting-suspect-dylann-roof.html">Dylann Roof</a>, who resembles another mass murderer, <a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20121214-official-gunman-killed-in-conn.-school-shooting.ece">Adam Lanza</a>, who shot and killed 26 people in 2012, including 20 children in their classroom. Both of these freaks remind me of the in-bred banjo player of "Deliverance" fame, but only in appearance. They are nuts, crazy psychopaths -- and they can't even play the banjo.<br />
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Roof shot and killed nine parishioners in a Charleston church on June 17, 2015. His apparent motive was that he hated black people. The killing has invoked passionate debate, about gun control, the Confederate flag, and the collective guilt of white people for racism. <br />
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Now for some points that will prove unwelcome in the frenzied search for culprits in the aftermath of the crime.<br />
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1. White people are less "racist" (I hate that overused word) than black people. Some black people have been calling for a race war for some time, on Twitter and elsewhere. Blacks have been shooting cops since Michael Brown was killed in the act of assaulting a white police officer, and expressing hatred of whites and advocating murder of policemen everywhere. <br />
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2. Blacks commit murders and other crimes against whites in far greater proportion than the opposite. Bad attitudes, racial prejudice and an inability to be held accountable for these things are endemic within the black community. These facts are bound to increase prejudice against blacks by others, not only by whites, but also by Hispanics, Asians and Jews, who are frequently the victims of black violence and crime.<br />
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Colin Flaherty writes in the American Thinker, in an article titled <span style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', trebuchet, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/06/the_war_on_black_people_in_south_carolina_the_first_casualty_is_truth.html">The War on Black People in South Carolina: the First Casualty is Truth</a>:</span><br />
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In Charleston, locals know racial violence is far more widespread than that. Only it is far more likely to be black on white.</blockquote>
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A black person is 50 times more likely to assault a white person than the other way around. The black on white rape numbers are even more out of proportion when compared to white on black sexual assault.</blockquote>
3. The Confederate flag had nothing to do with the crime. However, the Daily Kos and other leftist sites are calling for the flag to be removed from public display in South Carolina. Lindsay Graham has defended the flag and stated that it will not come down. Graham is right. Confederate descendants, and there are millions of us, love the flag for other than "racist" reasons. It's not coming down, and those who don't like it can self-copulate.<br />
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4. Dylann Roof's crime is not a factor of his political leanings. Whether he is a Democrat or a Republican is irrelevant. The little punk is nuts, crazy and insane. Insanity is not a political persuasion. Rabid political partisans on either side should stop trying to make political hay out of the tragedy.<br />
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5. There are many good black people who have thrown their lot in with the forces of tolerance and civilization. Many blacks in the South identify with the Confederate flag and are aware that the Northern Myth (of fighting the Civil War to free the slaves) is a lie of Biblical proportions. The criticisms in this post are not directed towards them. Every man and woman is an individual, to be judged on his or her own merits alone.<br />
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6. We will not give up our guns, and become helpless against a central government that seeks greater and greater control over our lives and liberties, as well as defenseless to violent criminals. It is a shame that insane people periodically murder innocents with guns, and solutions must be sought to alleviate this. However, such tragedies will have to be endured until solutions are found that do not remove guns from law-abiding citizens. <br />
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That's the way I see it anyhow.Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-4511769165121420412014-10-29T12:00:00.000-07:002015-05-25T17:00:56.742-07:00Henry Wirz, Commandant of Andersonville Prison, To Be Honored in Memorial Service<div class="MsoNormal">
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<strong><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">(Atlanta - October 29, 2014) </span></strong><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">The Americus camp of the
Sons of Confederate Veterans (SCV) organization will host an annual Memorial
Service for Civil War Andersonville Prison Commandant Capt. Henry Wirz on
Sunday Nov. 9. The musical group, "A Joyful Noise," from Leesburg,
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> When the War Between the States (Civil War) ended in
1865, Capt. Wirz was paroled. However, shortly thereafter, he was
arrested and carried to Washington , D.C. where he was placed in the Old
Capitol Prison. His trial before a military tribunal lasted several
months, and included the perjured testimony of a Yankee soldier who was a
deserter from a NY. Regiment who falsely claimed to be a great nephew of
Lafayette of Revolutionary war fame. For his false testimony against
Capt. Wirz, he was given a position with the U.S. Dept. of the Interior.
It was later learned that this key witness whose perjured
testimony contributed considerably to the conviction had never been at
Andersonville . The vast Majority of defense witnesses for Capt. Wirz were not
permitted to testify. Many historians call his trial a farce and travesty
of justice. After the war, James Madison Page, a Michigan cavalryman, who
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> Capt. Wirz was found guilty of murdering 13 Union prisoners
at Andersonville, although not a single body, nor even the name of any of the
13 was ever produced. He was also falsely convicted on a second charge of
conspiracy with high ranking members of the Confederate government to create
the conditions that caused the high death rate. Wirz was made a scapegoat
for the South. On Nov. 10, 1865, Capt. Wirz was hanged in the yard of the
Old Capitol Prison. He declared his innocence to the end. The night
before the hanging he was offered a commuted sentence if he would implicate
Confederate President Jefferson Davis as a conspirator for Andersonville
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> After the hanging, the barbaric Yankees cut off his
head and arms and other body parts, and exhibited them about the
country. It took Capt. Wirz's attorney, Louis Schade, four years to
collect enough body parts to have a Christian burial in Mount Olivet Cemetery
in Washington .<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> The highly biased Northern version of
Andersonville Civil War Prison (POW) Camp is well known however the true facts
concerning Andersonville are not well known. The government of The
Confederate States of America issued an order that a large POW prison should be
constructed in early 1864 to alleviate crowding in existing camps in the
South. The requirements were that it be constructed at a location further South
away from the battle front and should be a healthy location with plenty of
pure water, a running stream, close to grist and saw mills and if possible have
shade trees. The location selected was in South Georgia in Sumter County and
was officially named Camp Sumter although it became known as Andersonville . It
was constructed to house 10,000 Union POW's however numbers increased to as
high as 45,000 due to a policy by the Lincoln administration to discontinue exchanges.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> The average death rate at other POW camps in the
South was about 9% as compared to 12% for POW camps in the North where
Confederate POW's were incarcerated. In contrast the death rate at
Andersonville was approximately 29% due to causes beyond the control of
Confederate authorities and was unintentional. Also in contrast were the
similar death rates at several Northern POW camps notably Elmira New York and
Camp Douglas Chicago where the high death rates have been proven to be
intentional.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> It is a well known fact that the victor of a
war writes the history from a biased perspective. Immediately after the end of
the war absurd war crimes claims were made by Northern politicians, military
authorities, newspapers, periodicals, and citizens that the decisions and
conditions that caused the human disaster at Andersonville were intentional on
the part of Confederate authorities. Demands for War Crimes Trials were made
and the Commandant of Andersonville POW camp, Capt. Henry Wirz, was arrested, tried,
and convicted in a farce trial by a military tribunal who had
predetermined that a conviction would result. No War Crimes Charges
against Northern POW commandants were ever made and no Northern POW camp has
ever been enshrined by the U.S. Government as a memorial to Confederate POW's.
Only Andersonville in the South has been enshrined and it has become a memorial
to American POW's of all wars that have involved American veterans.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> In defense of the Confederate government and
Confederate prison officials in regards to Andersonville, a response was made
in 1876, by the Southern Historical Society, consisting of 9 points that place
the blame for deaths and suffering at Andersonville totally on Northern
politicians and military authorities. Specifically President Lincoln, Sec. of
War Stanton, Asst. Sec. of War Dana, and Gen. Grant shoulder the blame as noted
in the following 9 points.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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It is not denied that great suffering and mortality occurred but it was due to
circumstances and conditions beyond Confederate control.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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If the death rate be adduced as "circumstantial evidence of
barbarity" the rate of Confederate deaths was higher in Northern POW camps
where there was an abundance of food, medicine, and shelter.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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The Union POW's were given the same rations as Confederate guards and soldiers
and equal treatment in hospitals as required by the CSA government and the
death rate of CSA guards was the same as POW's. The Northern Federal
government did not have this humane policy.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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The exchange of prisoners was refused by the North <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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The CSA government requested that Northern doctors and medicine be sent to
treat Northern POW's and the request was denied.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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The CSA tried to buy supplies including bowls and other utensils to use in
feeding the POW's. They offered to pay with cotton and gold but the offer was
refused by the Lincoln administration.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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The Federal Government under President Lincoln made medicine contraband causing
suffering and death of Union POW's and all Southerners, military and civilian.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Prior to the period of greatest mortality, the CSA authorities offered to
release the Andersonville POW's without exchange but the offer was not accepted
by the Lincoln Administration who was told by CSA authorities "we cannot
feed or care for them-just come get them". Sherman 's barbaric war crimes
in Georgia consisting of stealing, destroying, and burning made food and
supplies even scarcer and increased suffering and mortality.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">9. The Northern press was furnished lies and propaganda by Union
Sec. and Asst Sec. of War Stanton and Dana claiming deliberate cruelties and
war crimes by the South. The control of Northern POW camps was transferred by
Stanton and Dana to vindictive partisan criminal elements and deliberate war
crimes of cruelty, torture, and murder were committed against Confederate
POW's as proven by a joint resolution of the U.S. Senate and House SR97.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> In 1906 former Confederate General Stephen D. Lee charged
the Sons of Confederate Veterans (SCV) organization with the duty to defend the
honor of the South and the Confederate Soldier:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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you, Sons of Confederate Veterans, we will commit the vindication of the Cause
for which we fought. To your strength will be given the defense of the Confederate
soldier's good name, the guardianship of his history, the emulation of his
virtues, the perpetuation of those principles which he loved and which you love
also, and those ideals which made him glorious and which you also
cherish. Remember, it is your duty to see that the true history of the
South is presented to future generations."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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planned events to commemorate the Sesquicentennial of the War, contact the
Georgia SCV at 404-456-3393 or online at <a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=0017NF09K2aLlaxyALF6y3MghpOflAqwH32pj03ycmf6u9bxHHqEijyOVpuDWqwg4KyCmvMzUBS-ougK8qPqPZ6fxtewGnX0UMsTztxK6uFEGxl2Lae36vuHVph0zANYXBJ2jh2OLIYV0PHB8YH5uWKqQhOtA7wdOMwbmLdQbVSCaiNadMw5x2iSL8Y-jM-H5UG&c=h6Yi7MjImL8nFsnhlDJH0QnKb7bjt9LgWLcH3LwwS_Pyn8fia8OQ0w==&ch=dnGfk_kllcXZyNPh_53NxHlVI6NKCYgsCC8z7iMwu8l1BhRlgNVcug==" linktype="1" shape="rect" target="_blank" track="on">www.GeorgiaSCV.org</a>
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His argument didn't really address the point of my post, that Limbaugh's assertion of Northern innocence was fundamentally erroneous. The North did not have strong objections to slavery, did not compromise their principles to encourage the South to join the union, as Limbaugh asserted.<br />
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However, the reader's comment about the low number of slaves in the North intrigued me. Just how low was the number? Was it indeed so low that it doesn't matter? I decided to do some research, and went looking for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1800_United_States_Census">Census of 1800</a>, as it was close to the Revolution of 1776. <br />
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I found that the Northern states in 1800 had 150,075 slaves (17%) compared to the South's 743,530 slaves (83%). Yes, the weather of the Southern states was much more amenable to cotton and tobacco farming, and for economic reasons (not moral ones), the South had more slaves. So if our study in comparative morality and awesomeness depends on slave numbers alone, the reader might have a point. But I doubt it. Consider: if the Northern states have ONLY 150,075 slaves, are they under the bar at which slavery becomes immoral? I think not. The argument is self-serving.<br />
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Of course, the North's greatest contribution to slavery lies in its slave trading. For every slave the Yankees sold the South, they sold 20 more to Brazil, Cuba and the West Indies. <br />
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The summary of slaves per state in the 1800 Census is below the fold.<br />
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<br />Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-51254666189598050322014-10-15T12:21:00.000-07:002014-10-21T10:37:30.517-07:00Rush Limbaugh Mouths Northern Myth Nonsense on Radio Program; My RebuttalRush Limbaugh really showed his ignorance of American history and the Civil War today. He voiced some feel-good myths that are easily refuted, and should be.<br />
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Here are his statements and my correction:<br />
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1. <b>The Founding Fathers only allowed slavery at the formation of the United States to appease the Southern states and encourage them to join the union. The Northern states opposed slavery and hated it and wanted to get rid of it.</b><br />
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Horse feathers. MOST of the Founding Fathers were slave owners or slave traders, including George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and Patrick Henry.<br />
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Twelve of the thirteen original colonies were slave states. There was no significant opposition to slavery by the Northern states. In fact, the Northern states were enthusiastically getting rich through slave trading. For every slave they sold to the South, they sold 20 more to Cuba, Brazil and the West Indies. Massachusetts, that great bastion of abolitionism, enslaved the Pequot Indians and sold them into slavery outside the continent. Rhode Island built and maintained an impressive fleet of ships designed and used specifically for slave trading. Northern textile mills used Southern cotton, planted and harvested by slaves, without any moral objections whatsoever.<br />
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Slaves were used in the North just as long as they were needed, and were then sold to the South once immigrants (like the Irish) were plentiful enough to replace slavery.<br />
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<b>2. Fifty thousand soldiers died in the Civil War to abolish slavery. </b>Not even close, Rush. Over 600,000 soldiers died in the Civil War (estimates put the number at around 640,000). At least 300,000 were Union soldiers. They did not fight to free the slaves, they fought to force the South back into a political union that they no longer wanted, for the usual reasons: to maintain the ability to tax and control property. For more details, see the scholarly essay by a university professor who actually knows what he is talking about: <i><a href="http://saberpoint.blogspot.com/2010/12/why-civil-war-was-not-about-slavery.html">Why the Civil War Was Not About Slavery</a></i>, by Donald Livingston, Emory University. The "fighting to free the slaves" myth was created after the war to give a false veneer of righteousness to Northern aggression. <br />
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So Rush, as someone who listens to you regularly, I must advise you to SHUT UP with regard to the Civil War and the Southern states, since you are wrong on the facts, and since you are alienating many Americans who are Confederate descendants, many of whom are conservatives.<br />
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<br />Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6483090538063099295.post-36445067574147740632014-09-05T15:04:00.003-07:002014-09-06T10:05:34.497-07:00Lincoln's War of Aggression (YouTube Video)<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/FyNS1PMHPqo" width="560"></iframe><br />
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Don't blame us for Lincoln's views on race. We report, you decide.Stogiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.com0